Thank you for your words!

In the original UserName Membership, I had done some near to 400 postings, much of which were quite active debates with other members. Many of them did have links to my personal writings. I do not think that is or was the problem.�

My posts were not just connected to the corrosive effects of feudal languages on English societies, but on various other themes like Codes that design Reality, the effects of British Colonialism, Foolishness of English nations' taking sides in colloquial issues in Feudal language nations and various other themes. There have been times, when profanity was used on me. However, on the whole the total content of the posts and counter posts were of a high intellectual quality.

I am totally distressed by the Talibanism actually in action in many English nation media. This is not an isolated issue. Many of my posts have been removed from many websites, and some have hinted that I was on a disruptive move. I am not sure if I am really on a disruptive move when I mention ideas that are currently seen as politically incorrect. The only issue that really bothers the others is that ideas that are inconvenient to a section of the population who have financial acumen should not be brought to the fore.

I do not have any position other than what my intellect portends.

Speaking about the general quality of the comments that appear on Huffingtonpost, it is difficult to visualise many of them as being from native-English speakers. So low is the quality in content and mentality. Another quite obvious feel in the general tendency shown by many members to don a holier-than-thou saintly demeanour when reacting to the negative actions of others. And off course, the general feel about the US is also very much there. As the nation is gradually going downwards, there is a general haste to imprison each other over there. Even the military men, who have wasted their lives on useless, utterly stupid national ventures are not spared. Even in the comments given by stay-at-home, or by the arrived-from-afar newer citizens.�

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Since you have asked me very pointed questions, I thought I will put in some focus on the answers.�

First of all my intelluctual position. I wrote the first draft of the book:MARCH of the EVIL EMPIRES; ENGLISH versus the FEUDAL LANGAUGES way back in 1989. Actually the theme was in my mind at least some 10 years before that. I posted it on Google books sometime in the early years of 2000s.

In the link I sent you, there is a section on United States of America. I sent the link to you in the sense that I do fear that my sort of apprehensions are coming true. However, when I first contempleted on these themes, I had no idea about computers, software and Internet. With the coming of all these things, events that should have taken decades and centuries have more or less fastforwarded quite fast.�

My intellucutal position in that book as well in all my writings have been not as a person with living interests connected to any passion, including shallow patriotism, other than sensing that things can go wrong with certain inputs, and things can improve with certain other inputs.�

When I wrote the first draft, I really had not much real time idea about English nations, other than what my mind could visualise how they would be, based on my understanding on language codes. You could go through this chapter in which there is a section on�Implications of Space Research Collaborations.�Even now I do not know if my quite cranky suggestions do �have any links to realities.�

As to your words that the nation does need an enlightened personage to lift it from the sure abyss it is moving to, I would suggest that it is not a person that can save the nation, but an understanding of certain things. It is basically connected to the knowledge of why English nations have a basic difference from many nations, more so from Asian and African and slightly, yet signifcantly from European nations. How this is getting corroded, and how the corrosion can be stopped.�

I am currently writing a book on the Intractablities connected to Improving Others. It is now some 30 thousand and odd words. I think it may go beyond 100 thousand words. Once it is over, I intend to post it here on this website. In this book, I did write the following words. Even though, it is slighly out of context here, I think you might find something to ponder upon:�

In many ways, it is like different animals meeting each other. Many years ago, when I went for business purposes to other states in my own nation, I had to go to interior villages. The native language would be quite un-understandable to me. My native language would also be equally un-understandable to them. However, in educated towns and cities, we would have a common language called English to communicate. In places where English had not entered, it is definitely like two different animals looking at each other. However, since we both know that we are human beings, and that we all have common purposes which are not dangerous to each other, there is not possibility of a physical attack. Physical attacks are also possible if I do try to dismantle the social hierarchy that holds their social system.

Since all Indians are aware of the issue of feudal language social hierarchy, not much transgression occurs. However, in many ways, we are just like to two different animal species looking at each other. We cannot understand what the other is speaking. The more cut off from English, the more cruder or more obsequious the other group can be. The obsequiousness comes if they feel that I am a superior. This would translate into such words in their language and I would get the requisite respect and command there.

Now into this group, which may feel like an animal group, if I were to bring in English, they would change rapidly. We would rapidly feel that there are so many common points between us. All words in English would seem to have an equivalent word in their language also. So we would feel that they are also human beings.

Actually if one could teach a group of animals to speak in English, the same effect can be had. However, one should bear in mind that even though most English words would seem to have an equivalent word in the animal communication system also, the fact would be that this is only a feeling from English. For only the animal, which knows both English as well as the animal language, would know that this is not the actual reality. All equalisations would only be approximations. For, the communication codes that have animal qualities and which cannot be fully translated into English would still be translated into some soft English words, wherein the original beastly quality of the same wouldnt be felt.

When English interaction with such people as African Blacks, Asian peoples etc. initiated some few centuries back. In the initial times, there were feelings that some of these people were not fully human beings. Or at least that their human intelligence were of a limited content. There were even studies and writings to prove this contention. In the same way, now we feel that animals are far off from Human intelligence. However, if one were to find a way to teach them English, there would be fantastic change in this perception. Once they get to be able to use computers and mobile phones etc., the development of their intellect would be phenomenal. Yet, there should always be this thing to be borne in mind. We can teach them English. That is they can learn human knowledge. However do we ever get to learn their inner knowledge, feelings, emotions and emotional triggers, and even their core feelings that guide them in their own social communication amongst themselves?

 

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Fascinating. �There is much in what you've written in your quote, and there is much about which I do not understand. �You are levels above me in intellect. �However, your words invite investigation, invite curiousity.

This question:

However do we ever get to learn their inner knowledge, feelings, emotions and emotional triggers, and even their core feelings that guide them in their own social communication amongst themselves?

I believe the answer to this question is "yes", independent of human language. �My brother and I have extensive experience with dogs. �After years of observation, we recognize some of their emotional triggers, and even some of their psychological triggers. �We believe that their inner knowledge far transcends ours, and it is only the lack of properly formed vocal cords, tongue and lips which prevents them from communicating their inner knowledge. �We believe they know things which the human mind can not yet comprehend.

Recent observations of dogs in nursing homes and hospitals have shown the animals can sense which patients have cancer, move themselves to the rooms of the patients, and offer themselves as inputs for empathy and love. �These occurrences are beyond the understanding of science.

The five dogs which my brother has are all of different breed. �Yet they have methods of communication which are common among them. �Watching them over a period of years reveals an incredible intelligence which defies the common belief by many that animals do not "think".

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What are your plans with all your writings? �Have you found an audience? �If you had to condense your message into 40 words or less, what would be that message?

Would your ideas lend themselves to a film, or a series of films?

I do not want to burden you with a lot of writings. However, I must admit that I started writing online from 2004 in UkResident. com. However, later that site changed direction and became an immigration site. So, I am currently trying to repost some 200 and odd articles in this webpage. 

You may find some information to my background here.

As to the film idea you mentioned, I want to say this much. Some years back, I did watch the TV serial Into the West by Steven Spielberg. I have mentioned it here. In the serial, the issue of translation creating havoc is depicted in a slight manner. The word Red Indian word 'Young Man' creating antipathy in the English official is seen, but not really understood. Actually, this word 'Young Man', can really create homicidal emotions. There is a word 'Chekkan' in the local language here, meaning more or less the same. If used to the wrong person who has physical powers, it can really lead to death or something similar.

About the film possibility, I am not sure how much this idea of mine can be of value over there. However, since the English nations are bubbling with non-English people, there is a possibility that this film theme I mention may have possibilities. See this film theme.  The idea can be also be interspersed with the theme of this Somerset Maugham's Short Story THE POOL. See this News Report also

The core issue is that even though as you mention you can understand that there is profound intelligence in your dogs, still you may not really understand why your dogs seem to get irritated by the presence of certain other dogs and go and fight with them. At heart, the issue is that is something irritating in the communication about which you have no idea. That part only the dog knows, and he should first learn English and have the willingness to convey it to you. I think that is the part wherein I stand intellectually, with regard to English.

As to what I do propose to do with my writings, I will speak later. For, it also requires a lot of writing. I do not want to burden you with more for the present.

Quote: You are levels above me in intellect. 

That is very easily explainable. It is akin to you teaching all your dogs English. Out of them, one proposes to inform you the realities of the inner world of dogs. The information that reaches to you is quite different from all your own perceptions about dogs and their communication systems. Actually you find me on a higher plane due to the fact that I bring a version of information in which you have no position to compete. For, you stand outside. As to me being more intelligent than others, it is just like the other dogs not willing to divulge their inner world, even after you have taught them English. The dog that has divulged need not necessarily be more intelligent. It is only being more open.   

I did visit your website 

I am posting a number of replies that came to my comments on Huffingtonpost. These I have collected from my email inbox.  My own comments will exist in the inboxes of the others. 

My comments were mostly of an 'original' idea type. Almost all of them appeared online only after a scrutiny by some moderator. However, after collecting around 300 of my comments, they have been removed from the site by Huffingtonpost. They can truely see the location from where I was writing. At least twice, they made me answer a single line survey, to ascertain my nationality. 

I am posting here the comments of mine connected to four of my contentions : 

1. On the issue of feual languages

2. On the issue of reality, human body as well as brain being designed and maintained by some super software

3. That the blacks who were brought to the US from the African states really improved in an English ambience. 

4. And also my idea that Gandhi was not a great man, but only a person propped up focused indoctrination through academic textbooks, a false image setting film made spending millions of dollars and by the Indian feudal class media.  

It is my contention that Huffingtonpost had done a grevious error in removing my comments. For, it was literally removing my claims to my ideas. For examlpe, when this news about Jon Hubbard's book that claims that Slavery for the US blacks was a blessing, I distinctly remembered that I had written something similar in Huffingtonpost. But there were removed. However, when I went through the emails from Huffingtonpost informing of comments on my comments, I found references to my writings. I believe that Huffingtonpost has done a very serious crime in hiding my writings. Their action is a simply at attitude that I am helpless and they are omnipotent. Well, this only a transcient feeling, which may need a very powerful curing.  

I will try to write detailed answers to these comments that I am copying from my emails: 

sprkyreed   March 14, 2012 at 1:54pm 

Victoria Institutions: I beg to differ with you. You say that "There is no one in the English and 'western' worlds who knows what is happening." The powers that be, large multi-national corporations, the moneyed class of the world who have homes and bank accounts around the world and feel no allegiance to any country and the governments of Western nations are all complicit. So is the consumer. Greed is behind it all. Forty years ago imported goods were, for the most part of superior quality, and they cost more. Then we gradually became inundated with the cheap crap and American consumers embraced it, some not knowing or caring that they were putting their fellow countrymen out of work, and others because they could afford nothing else.

Myonie Payton   March 19, 2012 at 2:34pm 

wow, that was really misinforming and full of utter bs.

12crunch   March 19, 2012 at 2:28pm 

I'm not sure what your point is, but slavery is never acceptable and not relevant to the racisim this student suffered in his classroom. Regardless of the slave holders origins, stripping someone of their freedom, dignity, and basic human rights is not acceptable no matter what language you speak. Do you think that slaves were taught English so they would become enlightened to their plight? No, slaves are taught the language of their captors, whatever language that might be, so that they can better serve them. Its difficult to give orders to someone who does not understand what you are saying. If what you are trying to do is down play Americas history of slavery by pointing out that it existed in other countries you are only proving yourself to be ignorant. Slavery is wrong and not to greater or lesser degrees depending on the mental state of the captive or the origins of the captor, its simply wrong period. Please don't continue.

morenenuf   March 19, 2012 at 2:58pm 

What on earth are you trying to say? NO, never mind. I'm pretty sure I don't want to know.

vsr   March 19, 2012 at 2:36pm 

I do find your comments shocking. You seem to be arguing that American slavery was an improvement for Africans. That is shockingly racist.

12crunch   March 19, 2012 at 3:44pm 

Your explanation of slavery is still not relevant to what happened to this kid in his class room. 

American slaves were not brought to America in order to learn English and liberate themselves. The adversity to follow not only for blacks but anyone who's country of origin did not use English as their primary language is a fact in direct opposition to your theory that English is the laguage of liberty. A comparison of slavery in different countries is an insult to anyone held captive, and the waste of its words to such a despicible end is an insult to the English language. You are sick!

vsr   March 19, 2012 at 3:31pm 

Please explain to me how the American slavery system was "better"? It was only people arguing against slavery, towards the end of the American slave trade, that claimed Africans were human. For hundreds of years scientists had been creating pseudo science to "prove" that Africans were NOT human. The American slave trade was completely dehumanizing.

Deetruth   March 19, 2012 at 4:00pm 

1 virtual fan and you're posting something so deep and extraterrestrial. What planet are you writing about? The human race would do just fine without the negative blight of slavery and it's historic cheerleaders. You bring nothing into this world and you certainly don't take anything out of it. Get a grip and let's make this world a better place. sheeesh!

WhatWhat1   March 19, 2012 at 4:37pm 

My comment was in response to Uber's last line.

As to your last paragraph, it is customary in that part of the world to compensate the victims' families financially. It would in no way urge them to have more family members killed than a similar compensation program here in the U. S. would prompt that behavior.

Alistaire   March 20, 2012 at 2:27am 

If there's some rationale behind either of your suggestions, I'm mildly curious to know what it might be.

12crunch   March 20, 2012 at 8:26am 

I gather that your world prospective is limited most likely to four walls and, if anyone you know cares about you, a straight jacket.

vsr   March 20, 2012 at 12:32pm 

There is no basis in reality for what you are saying. None. You are living in denial.

fran glass   March 21, 2012 at 2:43pm 

i can't believe that someone who is allegedly published in a book about race would use the term "race card"....

artsboy   March 21, 2012 at 11:10pm 

Then we really aren/t a country? Just a bunch of various ethnic groups occupying the same territory?

artsboy   March 21, 2012 at 11:39pm 

Well then, according to you, my service was all for naught. I hope not; I think you're wrong, very wrong. And I feel sorry for you if that's really what you think. You must be very unhappy.

artsboy   March 22, 2012 at 9:45am 

Can't really respond in this format. If you're saying that all the wars we have been involved in since WW2 don't make much, if any, sense, I'd agree.

Jwb52z   March 22, 2012 at 2:24pm 

The difference is that nothing in religion today, at least Christianity in the US, can be tested or falsified so it can't be science.

suemai   March 24, 2012 at 1:26am 

i am afraid that you ought to see a psychiatrist, my poor thing

palomino70   March 24, 2012 at 1:29am 

I take it you think the melting pot ideal is bogus.

Regardless, in 1950, the US was nearly 90% white. Now it's about 63% white. In 20 years or so, it will be less than half white. So what? You can either accept it or live in a world of nostalgic denial.

Musiciantype   March 24, 2012 at 1:36am 

You're about as subtle as an elephant, and not as smart.

btshcrzy   March 24, 2012 at 2:11am 

This nation's ties to anything "English" also included the pure brutality of the British government. Are you not aware of the history of the British Empire? Yes, let's live in a Fairy World where Queen Mary, ordering Protestants burned alive at the stake, was a fine way to create colonial obedience. 21st Century England did not rule colonies. A terribly unfair, class focused and cruel government was the "the English systems" you refer to. My lineage is 100% Irish, and while the Irish did not suffer slavery and being sold like property, they were starved, forced to remain impoverished tenants and never treated with justice. Please, run, don't walk, to an old fashioned library with books in it, and study a LOT harder about "the English systems," which included, among other things, the forced enslavement of children and prisoners in Australia, with many of those prisoners only guilty of petty theft but sentenced to terrible lives of hunger and beatings and years of unpaid labor, right alongside murderers. Do you not know how "the English systems" treated other races, for decades, in India? Are you that ignorant of history? England participated in slavery. England turned a blind eye to burning women at the stack for witchcraft. England used colonies for their natural resources and scorned non-whites as cheap labor. England prevented enormous numbers of her own people from receiving an education, keeping classes separate and having laws that literally prevented "certain" people from breaking out of economic bondage.

sstone74   March 24, 2012 at 2:40am 

Lol! My French, German, Russian immigrant ancestors would laugh at your comments, along with my children's Irish great-grandparents on their father's side. I think my East Indian, African American, Jewish, and Asian friends, whose ancestors helped to build this nation, would agree with me.

suemai   March 24, 2012 at 2:22am 

let me elaborate a little. Blacks and other non-whites "have improved under the English systems"? perhaps Native Americans have? let's ask them, shall we? 

And what "inner strings" are we referring to here? camouflaged under seemingly white but not quite "English" skin?

Delusional, paranoid mind at work. Lamenting about those who do not connect to "English quality centers", and clinging to the "good old" colonial days. Well, dear Victorian era lover, I have news for you: XIX century is OVER!

By the way, how are such obviously racist, white-supremacist comments even allowed here? 

And yes,

suemai   March 24, 2012 at 2:27am 

and yes, in the spirit of full disclosure: I am white, and sometimes ashamed of people whose skin color I share

rsstone74   March 24, 2012 at 3:11pm 

Actually Victoria, I have and continue to travel extensively. Poverty that is caused largely by class-based systems is an ugly, ugly thing. Thinking like yours CAUSES class-based systems (defining people by their ancestory). We are not an "English" system. We are distinctly American--a mix of thinking taken from multiple nations. Our government is based more so in Greek and Roman systems than English (more accurately, British, which is a collection of colonies that started out under the rule of one King). Britain was ruled by a King and Lords when America was founded. Parilament's role was fairly new. That makes America very unlike "England" of the 1700s.

bertysing   March 25, 2012 at 12:47pm 

I think it is too late to simply be isolationists, that can't work in the nuclear age. We have been meddling in many corners of the world for a long time, and much of it has resulted in detriment.

If we are to re-gain our credibility we have to recognize the mistakes we have made, and make some effort to fix them.

America is supposed to stand for human rights and compassion. We should not be de-sensitized to the suffering of people in foreign lands. It is a small world. The People as in we the people should let people on the other side of the world know we care, we should not just leave it all to the government, they have made a mess of it all to a large degree.

funfacts2012   March 26, 2012 at 1:58pm 

Victoria. Keep in mind. No one posting on Huffpost is in a position to help this man. He does need help and I'm sure most everyone would hope for that. But people are just having some fun talking about a story that is totally meaningless to 99.9999% of us.

stalkingmoonm   March 26, 2012 at 2:01pm 

Thank you Victoria....I too was dismayed by the ease and vigor with which so many dismissed the mans motive and pleas for help as he was being taken away..there was ill humored snickering but did anyone try to find out the circumstances that led to this incident?Have his children been taken? If so why? Not for this incident...has he a history of violence?Doesnt anybody question what they are told by media & officials ??

...I would be intersted to know more of the book mentioned.. tittle ,written by whom?

csjinvest   March 26, 2012 at 1:39pm 

While your post seems well thought out, it really is just an excuse for an individuals idiotic actions. Blaming society, or anyone except the responsible party is why we are failing as a society..... and not because of the 'issues' that you posted.

orangeslit   March 27, 2012 at 8:54am 

agree..instead of holding out your hand for another 'slavery reparation.'

consindenial   March 28, 2012 at 1:49pm 

Oh, please elaborate...I can't wait.

Win30 30   March 28, 2012 at 1:51pm 

You have not adjusted,go back where you came from.

wickedtwisted2   March 28, 2012 at 2:05pm 

you are guilty of attempting to divide the country. We do not need further DIVISION... united we stand, divided we fall. This crude attempt to suggest that we should divide the country is beyond ridiculous. However, if you should want to do so, I would suggest that the ones that want division remove themselves to Texas and Arizona.... kind of like... moving the Native Americans who REALLY should have rule of law over this nation.

uniqumm   April 1, 2012 at 5:16am 

Is this a question from someone from the Victorian Age?

uniqumm   April 1, 2012 at 2:35pm 

.................INCOMING!!!!!

Actually, it was one of my punny semi-jests.

I sprinkle them about, here and there................

uniqumm   April 2, 2012 at 10:29am 

It seems you may have omitted some lines?

In actuality, the problem of technology transference has been a subject of some concern to me for over two decades.

tj101   April 8, 2012 at 2:17pm 

You could say that about any race.

Non-racists realize this. Racists do not.

Elrancho2   April 8, 2012 at 2:22pm 

Patronizing, pompous rubbish. You really need to try to better yourself because you are the one who needs to be 'improved'.

kay360   April 8, 2012 at 2:22pm 

So, if you are reflexively afraid of some black people because of "their very presence, physical poses, gestures and such things," blacks are the ones who need to change? How about people who find the very presence of a black person "intimidating" grow up and grow a pair? 

Everything else you said is just dumb. Many blacks who immigrate from Africa are well-educated. They come from peaceful, democratic countries like Ghana, from which many American blacks come. The western world has not been some civilizing force for good for blacks. It has been enslavement and the terrorizing legal system we call Jim Crow or apartheid. I wish more whites understood our own history. I say this as a white person. It is illuminating.

Elrancho2   April 10, 2012 at 6:38am 

I'll tell you what improved me: Learning from other races, not looking down on them.

kay360   April 11, 2012 at 8:00am 

By the way, my point in educating you on cultures prior to the Anglo-phone invasion is to help you understand that the "English system of communication" was not adopted because it was more advanced. It was foisted upon various people who had their own literature, culture, and linguistic nuance through brutal invasions that have scarred and actually disintegrated some of the worlds great cultures. The beat goes on, but let's not fool ourselves in thinking we are always moving forward in a linear process. Most of the time we are moving in circles. Don't be surprised if Mandarin becomes the language of the 21st century.

kay360   April 11, 2012 at 7:52am 

You provide absolutely no evidence that you understand anything about Asian, African, Native American or other European cultures prior to the British Empire. Let me clue you in: 

1) The Irish spoke their own language prior to the English invasion. They were Christianized before the English and had their own culture. Their monasteries wrote beautiful, ornate, complex texts in Latin and Gaelic. They were far more prolific writers than the English well into the 15thc. The English did not civilize them, they exploited them. 

2) Contrary to Tarzan movies, Africans were not naked swinging from trees in the jungle prior to the European invasion. They were exporting cloth, salt, rare stones and minerals, and food stuffs from sugar to rice. The British were actually the last Western European group to experience their cultural awakening or Renaissance. The Italians, Spanish, and French were far more worldly just because of their proximity to Africa and the Middle East. 

3) Asians-- Chinese and Indians-- produced silk, indigo, spices and teas. What kind of cloth did England produce? Wool. I love wool, but let's face it, most Western dress is based on cotton today. Cotton was developed in Asia and Africa before it came to Europe. Even today, the best spices and teas come from the East. 

4) Native Americans-- We get our system of federal government from the Iroquois Federation. Franklin and Jefferson knew this, admired Native Americans, and credited them. 

Read your history before the unification of the British Isles in 1707.

kay360   April 11, 2012 at 8:07am 

By the way, the fact that you think Blacks should be "grateful" for the sheer brutality they suffered under the British in the US, Caribbean, and Africa and that you think the cultures of the Indian subcontinent are "low-quality social systems" just reveals you to be extremely ignorant. Don't argue with a person with a degree in history. Makes you look like a complete fool.

kay360   April 11, 2012 at 7:19am 

"The most silly attitude of 'every human being is an equal' is a very shallow understanding of human beings. Only in English and similar languages are all human being equals. If you could go into the interiors of Asian and African languages, you may find different levels of human beings literally lining up from the abdominal levels to that of divinity. 

Did you know that nothing you said made any sense? What the hell are "abdominal levels"? You sound like a college kid trying to apply complex vocabulary in disciplines such as anthropology or linguistics that you do not understand. Go back to the books, gets a clue, and then get back into the conversation.

kay360   April 12, 2012 at 4:23am 

So, your argument is that African, Asians, etc. should be grateful for slavery and colonialism because of the language of the Enlightenment on freedom and liberty? 

Give me a break. 

Slavery existed the world over, but the Europeans, particularly the English were the only group to make it an industry, with stock holders, investors, profit margins, etc. Not only was the buying and selling of humans an early corporate enterprise, the products that that enslaved people produced grew the early European market as well. Imagine, a continent sucking on the life and labor of the others. The Europeans were a bunch of parasites and no flowery language changes that. 

By the way, alot of Enlightenment thought was propaganda to justify slavery and illegal land occupation (i.e. colonialism). That's why South Africa, from which Mandela hails, was living under a brutal apartheid regime until the end of the 20th century-- over 250 years later. Profit and power has always meant more than fluffy language on the rights of man to the English and their forebears. 

Most of European history emerging from the Dark Ages into the Renaissance focused on developing weapons on a scale unmatched by any other civilization. That is because they were constantly killing each other over religion, food, and land. 

Interestingly, Europeans could only stop to consider the rights of man after having fatted themselves off the labor and land of Africans and Asians

kay360   April 12, 2012 at 4:42am 

"The real workers who make cottoncloths are the frittered classes who bear the brunt of feudal languages. 

Firstly, many Indians of the lower castes thought Ghandi, using the European political and Christian ideas, did not go far enough. Many of them also converted to Islam as an alternative to the rigid caste system of Hinduism and the hypocrisy of the Christian west. There was no monolithic political understanding among these classes that white rule was somehow superior to rule of Brahmins. 

Secondly, the African experience was very different from the Asian experience in one respect-- slavery and colonialism operated together and was far more brutal. 

"It is here that I mention that the African slaves, most of whom were the suppressed classes in their own nations, improved under the English systems, to the level that they can question their slavish attitude." 

This may or may not be true, but you provide no evidence to support it. And, you do realize that a third of the African continent was taken into slavery. About half did not survive the Middle Passage. Another third did not survive the first seven years in the New World. Of those who survived, their language, spiritual traditions, former political beliefs and social systems were stripped from them. Their families were dissolved and they were bred like animals. 

The ONLY language Africans could use to counter their oppression were European. You think their slavers would give a damn what they had to say in Yoruba?!

kay360   April 12, 2012 at 5:16am 

"In Asia, people do not allow their lower classes the chance to learn English. For, it would make lower classes equal to them." 

"English is not superior, but downright common."

These two statements are contradictory by the way. Like most of your argument, it reveals you are biting off more than you can chew.

kay360   April 12, 2012 at 5:10am 

You make assumptions about the freedom of the African or black lower castes that you cannot support. My guess is you have never been to the US, the Caribbean, or any of the former British colonies in Africa. There the Africans were and largely still are lower caste compared to the whites who live and possess the bulk of the wealth. Do not be fooled because you see some wealthy blacks. 

Race is a caste system here in the West because it is a generational phenomenon based on intrinsic qualities that persist even when one reaches a considerable level of wealth and power. There is greater deference to white rule and the assumption of black inferiority in terms of power, wealth, intellect and culture is the default position. Blacks cannot change this no matter what they do. Whites must change it. The system you bemoan between Asians in Asia is not very different from the system between whites and blacks in the West. 

I do not expect a thank you from Asians and Africans for freeing them from the cruelty of their own cultures. If you see yourself as saved by Europeans, I think you are a tad gullible, perhaps brainwashed. I see people in power acting the same the world over-- with greed and brutality-- no matter their culture and language. I am clear eyed in the belief that the Western world is one among many cultures that has pursued global dominance by fair means and foul.

ProRanger7777   April 15, 2012 at 9:51am 

Thats because most people, and most of the moron politicians in this country "think" we live in a Democracy. We do NOT! We live in a Constitutional Republic, which is nite and day in comparison. We dont live in a Democratic Republic either as so many misinformed will tell you. In a nutshell, a Republic is a place whererules and laws are established by elected officials, enforced by the laws of the constitution. A Democracy is pure mob rule, with NO adherance to laws at all. We were founded as a Republic. Nowhere in the Constitution, Bill of Rights, Declaration, is the word democracy even used. Why do you here people constantly say democracy? Simple: Have you looked at our education system the past 30 yrs?? The Nat'l Assoc of retired Teachers did a 10 yrs study, and found that HS graduates read on a 5.8 grade level, and 2nd year college students read at 8th grade levels. We are 26th in the world in education. Is it any wonder people dont know they live in a Republic? Hence the Kaos.

pjones358   April 21, 2012 at 7:48pm 

So, you have said all of this to say what? Regardless, it is still wrong for anyone to inflict abuse or another.

alpineis1   April 21, 2012 at 7:54pm 

What is your point? That it is okay to abuse someone because a society thinks it is okay.

masmanz   April 21, 2012 at 7:59pm 

If you knew the etymology of the word 'husband' you would not have written this treatise on Chinese and Indian languages.

caroleann926   April 21, 2012 at 8:16pm 

Blah, blah, blah. Abuse is wrong, no matter the culture and no one deserves a free pass to abuse.

leavesbound   April 21, 2012 at 8:18pm 

Language is part of culture not seperate from it.

leavesbound   April 21, 2012 at 8:01pm 

There is absolutely no excuse linguistic, cultural or otherwise for beating up on a woman. Basically what you are saying is that she may inadvertantly provoked her husband into inflicting violence. This is NOT and excuse nor any form of justification in any part of the world. Universal human rights natural law: Husband beats wife = evil

tinmaker   April 21, 2012 at 8:00pm 

There is nothing to understand. A person who beats up a smaller, weaker person is the biggest kind of coward as well as a bully. There is no excuse for it, no matter what culture you're talking about. How can a man who beats a woman hold his head up?

cindy863   April 22, 2012 at 2:35am 

From a cross-cultural view , the ideas of what constitutes DV in a particular society may be complex. Yes, it is striking and kind of interesting that this man doesn't believe he was abusive because he didn't do it often over a period of years, or because there was a carpet to soften the blows. The complexity is only relevant ( in my opinion) to those who maybe trying to effect change in a particular culture. Understanding a culture and its beliefs and traditions are important to know so that you can best go about changing beliefs, laws and behavior.

I have many beliefs that I would not dream of imposing on another person, never mind another culture however, the idea that you shouldn't people hurt just because you can is not one of them. I would freely impose that on the entire world.

masmanz   April 22, 2012 at 1:46pm 

All I wanted to know was what you think about the word "husband". And, it is practiced in its original meaning in many parts of the English-speaking world including parts of the Bible belt here.

cindy863   April 22, 2012 at 3:48pm 

How the different codes and cues of a language are interpreted and acted upon in the different levels of a society ( immed family, extended family, social , work, etc) is a big part of theculture and may even define it..

American women are raised and taught in such a way that would make understanding the Chinese way and living it, almost impossible. Same goes for Arab and Persian Muslims. Countries that are similar to us may also be difficult. Heck, different parts of the US have different norms and expectations.

Much of negative reaction you got was because it looked like you were saying- don't judge this man because the way he was taught allows this behavior.When looking from a cross-cultural view and language study you may be correct but we don't accept that from men in our own country. They may have been brought up seeing Dad hit Mom etc but we don't let them use that to be absolved of responsibility for their actions.

While its accurate to say that woman who move to China do so at their own peril, it is irksome to Americans to say that it is the woman's responsibility to learn what she needs to do or not do to avoid getting hit. It may be true, but we operate from the other side- that almost nothing we can say or do ( aside from hitting others) should result in our being hit.

leavesbound   April 22, 2012 at 7:59pm 

Today I attended the birthday party of a friend of mine from the Asian community. His father fled China when the communists took over. My friend grew up in Cambodia and he and his family fled Cambodia in the early 1980s. There were several Chinese imigrants at the party as well. So I posed this question to several in attendence and virtually all concured with what I posted yesterday. When I asked about abuse by wives I was laughed at. They never heard of such a thing. I was told "it's ALWAYS the wife who is abused in China. Yes women can push buttons but there was not one person at today's party who thought that was ever justification. All that said, I only spoke to the women on this topic.

jcourtland   April 23, 2012 at 5:04pm 

What in the world did you just say in a poorly grammar manner?

Tribalenvy   April 23, 2012 at 5:09pm 

I'm not sure what this has to do with the article in question, but...

A huge number of years studying gives our young people a well rounded education. It allows them to explore a variety of topics/interests to determine what path they wish to follow in the future. If that path does not work out (injury, loss of interest) they have early developed skills in other areas that can help them make such transitions.

Those years of studying also create a more flexible mind and expand horizons by teaching topics the student might not otherwise have engaged on their own.

dbmyers   April 23, 2012 at 5:25pm 

Quit hijacking the topic. I can't see what your nearly incomprehensible statement has to do with this article. Hopefully you just posted in the wrong place. Still, you need to do some "years studing books" in order to improve your ability to express yourself. The "rituals of an active life" (whatever that may mean) have nothing to do with "technical and trade skills", nor learning to express yourself effectively.

Razpooten   April 23, 2012 at 8:27pm 

I must've mixed my pink pills with my blue ones, what? Could you put that in more gooder English?

Razpooten   April 26, 2012 at 12:51am 

I'm not sure that what I think you meant to say is what I think read.

dbmyers   April 26, 2012 at 2:02am 

Victoria Institutions. I've tried and failed to find any previous comments that would have caused me to respond to your brief comment, that although I couldn't see how it related to the current thread, did not deserve my aggressively hostile response. I must appologise, sincerely. The only thing I can think of is that I might have mistakenly attributed some vile homophobic comment by someone else, as having come from you. For that I am sorry. If I have misjudged you I am really sorry. I can't find any comment that deserves the amount of derision that I aimed your way. I was battling with a bunch of bigoted homophobic trolls and it would seem that I made a mistake and inflicted my frustration and hostility which should have been directed to them, in your direction. Your "poor scholarship" does not appear to deserve my abuse. Sincerely sorry.

amerifun   April 26, 2012 at 9:19am 

The US is a police state and it's getting worse.

Bexarpaw   April 26, 2012 at 9:37am 

We have caved in to the terrorists!

synergie   May 1, 2012 at 12:13am 

Wetware? I think science got there years ago.

synergie   May 2, 2012 at 12:23am 

Cool. Look up the neural net. I think there was some stuff done with machine learning concepts in the 40's and 50's. I'm not sure. The brain stuff is fascinating, but when it starts getting into computer code, my brain tunes out

synergie   May 2, 2012 at 12:59am 

Well, they got there, they didn't master it. Having the idea and the technology to integrate them are two separate things. The idea is being taken seriously these days, and has been for the past couple of decades. 

I doubt that psychiatrists and psychologists would be seen as quacks, their fields would evolve as well.

Homeopathy is pretty much viewed as quackery, and it's pretty much seen as placebo effect not something that is provably effective in most cases.

Modern science has most assuredly have gotten to wetware, and they're integrating things more and more. 

I think you're not looking at the big picture. Things like brain operated prostheses, computers to translate the speech of those with functional brains etc. These are all the applications of wetware.

Modern medicine (including psychiatry) is no stranger at all to wetware.

synergie   May 2, 2012 at 5:56pm 

The vast majority of the sciences don't really have anything to do with wetware. I'm pretty sure that the whole brain-in-a-vat idea has been explored. I recall both my philosophy profs and my science profs bringing up the idea.

"In the beginning was the Creator, within whom was the word, and the word was the Lord Himself'"

- Rig Veda

Those deeper meanings are also nothing new  

Honestly I don't much about homeopathy, but that it doesn't have much hard proof to back it up. If you feel that it works for you, then keep using it. The Placebo effect isn't nonsense, and it's not a mental disease, nor is that suggested by anyone credible. 

The simple fact is that many conditions resolve with time, and a positive outlook from the patient is sometimes all that's needed to produce a positive effect. 

Psychiatrists are not software engineers, that simple fact doesn't in anyway make them quacks. Um, they're neuroscientists, and they're quite aware that hallucinations and delusions are the effect of varying neurotransmitters and processing by various areas of the brain. I'm not sure why you think that they have to use the language of software to be considered legitimate.

synergie   May 2, 2012 at 5:58pm 

You seem to have a very specific view of software code, but have an odd way of applying it. It's like dismissing anything that isn't English simply because it's not English and that's all you know. Many other alphabets and languages are used to describe the world and the brain than software code, that is merely one. Not understanding other codes, doesn't make it quackery.

Occultism has nothing to do with modern science. You might want to expand your horizons and look beyond software codes to try to understand medicine and neuroscience. You might be astonished that some of your points have been around for quite some time, even if they're not written in the software language you seem to specialize in.

faithnj   May 3, 2012 at 12:33am 

there may be differences between people of different nationalities, or ethnicities-- but it still doesn't make it right to stereotype people. at the end of the day, EVERYONE is an individual. you can't name a single group of people- and then apply a dumb stereotype to every single one of them. at the end of the day, you gotta take every person just as they come. beside, 

Cynth   May 4, 2012 at 1:40am 

What does that mean?

Killermolls44   May 4, 2012 at 1:43am 

Turning into a circus is more like it.

kennyfloyd   May 12, 2012 at 12:37am 

Racists much?

ViktorN   May 12, 2012 at 1:00am 

It's hard to imagine they would have been willing to die for what England has become today.

kennyfloyd   May 12, 2012 at 12:50am 

You mean the outsiders like the French, Danes, Polish, American, Canadian, etc. You mean the 2 Canadians that were my family members who left the safety of Canada to save England. One was a Lanc Navigator, my Uncle he was shot down over Penamunde raid, crash landed in France and smuggled out by the Resistance or my Cousin, the outsider from Nova Scotia who invaded your country flew for RCAF and died in his escort plane over Hamburg, where he is buried. Did you mean those outsiders? Or are you talking about the outsiders with different colored skin than you?

kennyfloyd   May 12, 2012 at 12:53am 

C'mon moderator, weed out the racists!

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